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Offlinee7navy1999

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    18,000 Mile service
    « on: 2014-07-27 15:11:31 »
    https://krussell.com/gtl-service.pdf  has anyone (K16) owners had to have their valves adjusted at the 18k service?  How about new spark plugs (at $22 USD) per pop?  My truck gets 100,000 Us miles on a set of spark plugs.  I was thinking of just holding off until the 36k Mile service. 

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      Re: 18,000 Mile service
      « Reply #1 on: 2014-07-27 16:51:59 »
      Just had the 18000mi (30000 km) service done. All the valves were checked, but none needed adjustment. All the spark plugs were changed as per manual. Was it actually necessary? I don't know, because I didn't see the old ones, but I prefer the maintenance to be done as prescribed anyway.
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        Re: 18,000 Mile service
        « Reply #2 on: 2014-07-27 22:47:40 »
        I think a couple of mine were adjusted at the 18k service.  At 27k now, so dreading the next big one lol!

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          Re: 18,000 Mile service
          « Reply #3 on: 2014-07-28 00:29:42 »
          Thanks Winston,  I am dreading it.  I am a little past 18,000 now.  I will wait till November when the garage cools down and make it a 1-month project.  I did my K1200's many times and this can not be much more difficult except the darn radiator air bleed.  I will start shopping for plugs.  I think Beemer bone yard carries plugs now.  My truck plugs were only $3 USD each and last 100,000 miles. Iridium Platinum four prong.   The darn air filter I can get for under $70 usd. 

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            Re: 18,000 Mile service
            « Reply #4 on: 2014-07-28 00:45:47 »
            At the end of the day - it's just an engine.


            More valves to check, but no different to any other motor with the same tech.


            I am great on the principle, but not so confident to apply it!
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              Re: 18,000 Mile service
              « Reply #5 on: 2014-10-19 02:06:22 »
              OMG just finished the 18K valve adjustment.  Took about 7hrs but only because I dropped a torx bit down the spark plug hole.  had to make myself a nice handy little magnet on a long wire.  Lesson learned...stuff a paper towel down each hole as you go!  it was pretty straight forward maintenance similar to the K1200's I had but slightly more cramp.   This link helps a great deal.  https://k6gtl.com/K6_sm/11_34_Valves_with_springs.pdf.  All valves were in spec.  The number 5 intake was very close to the edge of the spec.   I will include a few pics.  My spark plugs were sort of weird color #2 and #5 were whiteish.  the rest were good burns

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                Re: 18,000 Mile service
                « Reply #6 on: 2014-10-19 02:38:20 »
                pics for the plugs are attached.  I am concerned about the #2 and #5 as they are white looking.  Any comments?

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                Re: 18,000 Mile service
                « Reply #7 on: 2014-10-19 07:28:54 »
                e7navy1999 - I'm not able to find your images - Could you try attach them a second time ?
                BTW: I had the same thing tree plugs - totally white - like powdered - outside, not in the spark gaps?

                It's coming from water in the spark plug hole.




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                  Re: 18,000 Mile service
                  « Reply #8 on: 2014-10-19 15:47:29 »
                  In my humble opinion bike servicing is a rip off. We pay for top quality synthetic oil that will last for 50k miles+ in a car but has to be replaced in our bike after just 6kmiles, valves at 18k, plugs at 18k, air filters every time you sneeze and brake fluid every 12 months that again would last 3 years in a car before needing to be replaced.

                  I think on a modern engine the service intervals could be extended somewhat.
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                    Re: 18,000 Mile service
                    « Reply #9 on: 2014-10-19 18:44:40 »
                    Attached are the spark plug pics.  I am concerned about the #2 and #5 plugs are white on the ends.  #5 was the intake valve that was just barely in Spec by .03mm

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                      Re: 18,000 Mile service
                      « Reply #10 on: 2014-10-19 18:52:27 »
                      One more lesson learned from my valve adjustment experience: When I do this again I will take the bike to the car wash and spray out above the valve cover area really well.  Sand and bugs gather above the valve cover and when the cover is removed some particles can fall into the valves parts.  it took be about 1hrs to clean up my error. 

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                        Re: 18,000 Mile service
                        « Reply #11 on: 2015-08-20 23:27:02 »

                        [size=78%]Put my bike in for its 18,000 mile service today, dealer was told it was the 18,000 mile one on the phone at time of booking it in.[/size]
                        Got a phone call saying that they had found a couple of problems, brake pads low and front suspension ball joint has excessive play, fair enough the ball joint getting done under warranty.
                        Dealer also said that they did not have an air filter, they surely knew they needed one as it was made plain bike was having 18,000 mile service, but would have one when bike gets ball joint done next week.
                        Was charged today for the "oil service", £60.
                        Am interested as there has been no mention of spark plugs or valve adjustment.
                        Is there any legitimate reason for not doing these jobs at the 18,000 mile service ?


                        Will say nowt till I see what they do next week but obviously don't want my newly purchased expensive extended warranty voided because dealer cant be bothered doing the correct servicing, time will tell.


                        Also need the bike in working order for end of next week as off to Germany so will save any potential discussions till after then.
                        how much Mr BMW ?

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                          Re: 18,000 Mile service
                          « Reply #12 on: 2015-08-21 02:25:23 »
                          How strange they haven't done the valves and plugs, the 30,000km service schedule is quite clear.....


                           
                           
                           
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                           [size=0pt][color=rgb(0.000000%, 0.000000%, 66.667000%)]11 34 502 Checking valve clearance (for maintenance) 30,000kms
                           12 12 509 Replace all spark plugs (as part of maintenance) 30,000kms
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                          But why do you need an air filter at 30,000kms, 18,000 miles?
                           
                           
                           
                           [size=0pt][color=rgb(0.000000%, 0.000000%, 66.667000%)]13 72 505 Replace air filter cartridge (for maintenance) 20,000kms
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                            Re: 18,000 Mile service
                            « Reply #13 on: 2015-08-23 06:37:58 »
                            Personally I think the air filter should be change more often than 18000 us miles.  The plugs can go 36,000 to 50,000 without sacrificing much performance.  Valve adjustment...that is a tough one.  best to play it safe than sorry and if you schedule it you had might as well change the plugs as well because it is a whole day off to this work 

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                              Re: 18,000 Mile service
                              « Reply #14 on: 2015-08-23 18:46:46 »
                              We just picked up our 2012 1660 gtl and are curious what type of oil do most of you use. Does BMW make a specific oil? We will be doing most of the maintenance ourselves and are a little confused as to why brake fluid needs to be changed after 12 months, etc. Any advice appreciated. First bmw bike.
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